Re: virus: Re:Differing perspectives

From: Mermaid . (
Date: Mon Aug 05 2002 - 10:18:46 MDT

Some thoughts on the Arab world, suicide bombers and terrorism.

There have been more suicide bombings conducted by the LTTE(Liberation
Tigers of Tamil Eelum than those conducted by the Arabs. The 'cult' of
suicide bombing has not 'spread throughout the Arab world'. You hear about
it specifically in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. It would be right to
say that it is indeed a act of desperation by an oppressed people without an
army or powerful political lobby or unlimited financial assistance. (LTTE is
far more well supplied financially. They are far more accurate and they are
far more lethal and feared. Having been very close to 2 LTTE 'incidents'
myself which btw happened thousands of kms from the actual place of
conflict(Eelum...Ceylon and the southern most tip of the India...Tamil all 'evil' leaders, Vellupillai Prabakaran, the LTTE kingpin is
charismatic and he holds so many people under his spell...), the long arm of
LTTE terrorists clutches the lives of completely uninvolved and totally
ignorant civilians. There are worlds and fears that most of the western
world is blissfully and willingly unaware of...It is tragic that it took a
Sept 11 for people to take notice...

If people think that the suicide bombers of Palestine sacrifice themselves
for the opt repeated lie of '72 virgins'(which totally trivialises their
pain and suffering...not to mention that it actually attempts makes it all
look like a joke)and all the propaganda about violent Islam, then we have
already lost TWAT. The ones who started this all have won. Something to
think about?
The JRA. Japanese Red Army:

<snip>The JRA is a group of Japanese anarchistic leftists intent on igniting
a worldwide revolution through terrorist actions enjoying foreign state
sponsorship The JRA has maintained cooperative ties since 1971 with the
North Korean regime and the Libyan regime as well a having a long-term
relationship with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP,
q.v.). Since the JRA maintains its center and training camp in the Syria
controlled part of the Bekaa valley in Lebanon, Syria ma also be considered
one of its state sponsors. The Japanese name for this "Red Army" is Sekigun,
"Japanese Red Army" being Nippon Sekigun. Since May 1986, the JRA has been
using the name ''Anti-Imperialist International Brigades" as either a new
cover or as a nom de guerre.

Similar in many ways to the German Red Army Faction (q.v.), the JRA has
rationalized its terrorism in revolutionary leftist terms but appears to
pursue terrorist violence as an end in itself rather than as a strategy to
achieve revolution. The JRA can be considered "leftist" insofar as it seeks
to smash capitalism, professes the superiority of a socialist state, and
often uses Marxist jargon. Yet they must also be considered anarchistic
insofar as they have limited their program to destroying the existing
capitalist states rather than building the foundations of some successor
socialist state. Often the JRA has claimed to seek the role of serving as a
rallying point for similar anarchistic leftists in Japan, opposing Japanese
and Western "imperialism," and establishing a People's Republic in Japan.
The venue of most of its actions are outside of Japan, however, and even
when the JRA has used hostage taking or hijacking to force the Japanese
government to release comrades imprisoned within Japan, such compliance
tends to be a relatively low-visibility event. Therefore, it is unclear how
the JRA terrorist program can expect to influence public opinion within

The JRA emerged from an internal purge of the Japanese Red Army Faction in
1970-1971, leading to the murders of several members. These murders led to a
police crackdown in Japan, forcing many members of the JRA Faction to flee
abroad. A JRA Faction liaison with the PFLP in Lebanon, Fusako Shigenobu,
invited other fugitive members to join her there where the JRA was formed.
Shigenobu remains the leader of the JRA.
<snip>(more at the url)

[Mermaid]Guess what? they had a middle east faction and a north korean
faction. Note how they operare in and from the Middle East.(HQ=Lebanon) This
further waters the seemingly weak assumption of the nurturing environment
that Islam provides to suicide bombers. I discard it as propaganda and
anti-islamic tripe.

And then we have the RAF. Red Army Faction

[Mermaid]Enough said. More material at the above mentioned url.

I have tried to edit a list of terrorist groups that are not Islamic in
nature or by origin. Does it look like Islam solely nurtures terrorism?
Probably not. Is it always about matrydom? Probably not. Is it always about
oppression? No. If you are familiar with even half the names in the list,
you'd know that most of them are fighting for ideology and not against the
kind of oppression and injustice the Palestinians are battling. Many of them
conduct acts of terror to punish and not to deter oppression of the better
armed opposition. In the list is not included the Jewish underground gangs
and terrorist groups. It includes Irgun, Haganah, The Stern Gang, Kahane's
followers and others. This doesnt include the jewish underground and
terrorist cells in the settlements who raid against the Arabs whose land
they stole. Being that they put their lives and their families lives in
danger by living in illegal, unrecognised land knowing very well that it
would cause provocation can also be considered as 'suicide' missions. My

Armata Corsa, France

Aum Shinrikyo, Japan

Basque Homeland and Freedom (ETA) Spain

Chukaku-Ha (Nucleus or Middle Core Faction) Japan

Irish Republican Army (IRA) Northern Ireland

Lautaro Youth Movement (MJL) Chile

Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF) Northern Ireland

Manuel Rodriquez Patriotic Front (FPMR) Chile

Moranzanist Patriotic Front (FPM) Honduras

National Liberation Army (ELN) Colombia Colombia

National Liberation Front of Corsica (FLNC) France

Nestor Paz Zamora Commission (CNPZ) Bolivia

New People's Army (NPA) Philippines

Party of Democratic Kampuchea (Khmer Rouge) Cambodia

Qibla and People Against Gangsterism and Drugs (PAGAD) South Africa

Real IRA Northern Ireland

Red Brigades (BR) Italy

Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) Colombia

Revolutionary Organization 17 November Greece

Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHCP/F) Turkey

Revolutionary People's Struggle (ELA) Greece

Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path) Peru

Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement (MRTA) Peru

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