RE: virus: On war

From: Dylan Sunter (
Date: Thu Aug 22 2002 - 09:10:45 MDT

considering that it is widely believed that Saddam hussein has stockpiles of
chemical and biological agents, it is an interesting point why these have
never been used against either US or Israeli targets.

They have clearly been used in the past against the Kurds, regardless of
whether he still has them. This begs the simple question of WHY have these
never been used against these ovbious targets?

delivery of chem/bios is a lot simpler than delivery of a nuke. saddam has
the ability to reach israel with Scuds, so why hasnt he ever loaded them
with chems or bios?

there are a number of reasons, but one in particular makes more sense. For
all that he is not a nice man, and given that he is a meglomaniac nutter
with expansionist tendancies (much like the current US commander in chief I
feel, but this isnt the issue) and a murderous tendancy towards israelis and
americans, WHY OH WHY OH WHY has he not even effectively tried?

Is it because, fruitcake that he is, saddam isnt completely insane, and
knows that an attack with WMD would simply result in counter attact? You
cant run an irradiated country very well.

Are you suggesting therefore that the minute he gets a nuke he will use it?

The fact is that there has only ever been one nation which has used nukes,
and that was unprovoked by a first strike with WMD. So when the US has nukes
(and yes, im not leaving out the others too) they are a "nuclear deterrant"
but when nations not allied have them, they are "Weapons of Mass
Destruction", a name which provokes a much more fearful response.

So, Mr Dees, you and you beloved president (and Mr blair too) can basically
get yourselves off, you've been a laugh, but this is really really serious
shit, and I for one have a major problem with anyone with the belligerance
and lack of intellect that the current president has having their finger on
a button, but telling the world how to run their own nations.

As john lennon said "its all getting a little bit serious now..."


-----Original Message-----
From: []On Behalf
Sent: 21 August 2002 20:02
Subject: Re:virus: On war

On 21 Aug 2002 at 14:33, wrote:

> [Joe Dees]
> I, for one, am not prepared to wait for the mushroom cloud to rise
> above New Your harbor in order to salve your need for a basis; an
> ounce of prevention is worth a megaton of cure.
> [rhinoceros] They could just wait for two and a half years, with
> surveilance and everything, and see how it goes. (Didn't they say that
> Saddam will have da bomb ready in three years?) In this way, much less
> people would see Bush and his advisors as mad(wo)men attacking just on
> a hunch.
> [Jake] Good point Rhino. Additionally we should also consider the
> fact that having a bomb and delivering it are two different things.
> It is highly improbable that even were he to build a few nuclear
> devices that he could actually bring about the mushroom cloud over New
> York harbor, as Joe overblown rhetoric suggests. Apparently Joe
> thinks Saddam has some sort of teleportation device that will
> immediately deliver the bomb to us upon its completion.
Nope; just a ship or a cargo container.
> -Jake

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