Well.....I say that a biological existence with pain is absolutely
necessary. There's the epistemological arguement for the Empiricist
arguement that we gain most of our knowledge from personal experiences in
the world, and for one to understand 'hot' or 'burn' one must experience
that burning sensation...which comes from signaling the nerves in the
organism from an 'extreme' heat source...wouldn't pain result? I guess, in
this sense, we would completely remove any comprehension of pain from our
existence...and the cause would soon become self-defeating because it would
work to elimate things in our lives that don't truly exist. The cause is met
and therefore unneeded...and that would spark investigation for the concept
of pain itself and it would once again be reinvented... Well, it's just a
thought.
As for emoptional pain, I'm almost certain that's about impossible to
remove without restricting a sense of mental freedom or such...
So, Walter, I wonder if biological existence without pain is truly
possible in reality, and if so, necessary.
-Ryan
>From: Walter Watts <wlwatts@cox.net>
>Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
>To: virus@lucifer.com
>Subject: Re: virus: any comments
>Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:12:42 -0500
>
>
>
>Ryan Hebert wrote:
>
> > One question: I am unsure as to what the organization means by
> > "Biotechnology can make us smarter, happier - and nicer. Post-Darwinian
> > superminds can abolish "physical" and "mental" pain altogether." I am
>sure I
> > can guess by biological senses, that it may make us smarter due to gene
> > therapy; however, I cannot see reasoning of removing pain from our
> > existence.
>
>Wouldn't that be like separating yes/no, ying/yang, love/hate,
>positive/negative?
>
>Someone describe a biological existence WITHOUT pain.
>
>Walter
>
>
> > There are obvious pros and cons, but I question the need to
> > abolish such pain, and to completely rewrite us as human beings to make
>us
> > more empathetic? World peace and 'free love' is a wonderful idea and
>all,
> > but I wonder if we would not become mindless robots? Or perhaps,
>membots?
> > ....call me a stupid teen for having such, how should we say, worries?
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > >From: Bigfatboy6028@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
> > >To: virus@lucifer.com
> > >Subject: virus: any comments
> > >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:25:42 EDT
> > >
> > > <A HREF="http://www.bltc.com/">Click here: Mission Statement of BLTC
> > >Research</A>
> >
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