From: Jake Sapiens (every1hz@earthlink.net)
Date: Sun Aug 17 2003 - 15:40:32 MDT
I submit that you are wrong in that this is not an insult to you, your
mother, your family, or your pets but rather a criticism of your behavior
on this list. You may very well be a fine person when you aren't acting
like Dick Cheney's memebot. I accept your repasting again (since you seem
incapable of making any sense on your own today) for completeness the first part
of your originally pasted unoriginal quote. The full inspired passage from
your new hero goes like this.
"The report we issued last month presented more than 100
recommendations covering virtually the entire range of concerns
that face the American people. One of the concerns, obviously, is
the aging power grid the growing problem that we have in getting
electricity from the power plant to the light switch. It's clear that
we must upgrade and expand the power grid. If we put more
connections in place, we'll go a long way towards avoiding future
blackouts. Another broad aim is to increase energy supplies from
diverse sources; from oil and gas, renewables, coal, hydro and
nuclear. This is the kind of balanced approach we think is
essential if we're going to meet the country's energy needs down
the road and take care of many of our other concerns, ESPECIALLY
WITH RESPECT TO THE ENVIRONMENT"." -- Vice President Dick Cheney,
U.S. Energy Association Efficiency Forum Washington, D.C.,
June 13, 2001
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the caps emphasis was my own to point out some hypocrisy which you
seem to be avoiding. I know that criticizing your new hero can seem
painful to you Joe, but the sheriff can't protect you on that one, and I assume
he probably tell the difference. If you act like a memebot, and we
can't point out instances where you do so, then the entire CoV lexicon is truly
meaningless, and I can't imagine that anyone relevant to the decision to create
intended the sheriff's position to operate this way. If you can't
play the game honestly, maybe you should try quitting, Joe. For
your own mental health if nothing else. You obviously seem incapable
of engaging in any meaningful debate. In any case, if I really am
insulting you (as you imagine), I invite you to ignore me and not respond,
especially on the public list, as this only makes problems worse. You seem
to have a really ugly experiences with this problem. Didn't your mother
ever teach you not to run with scissors, and other good lessons like that?
I'm sure she did, you probably just didn't really listen. It's never too
late to learn, Joe. Good luck.
Love,
-Jake
Joe whined:
I submit this post by Jake Sapiens as an example of an insult to me
personally (re: memebot), the kind of thing that our new sheriff
supposedly forbade. I also note that the section that
specifically had to
do with power grids, namely "One of the concerns, obviously, is the
aging power grid; the growing problem that we have in getting electricity
from the power plant to the light switch. It's clear that we
must upgrade
and expand the power grid. If we put more connections in place,
we'll
go a long way towarfs avoiding future blackouts.", was cut, and then the
charge came that the comments Cheney made had nothing to do with
power grids, even those that were deleted directly addressed them.
Joe Dees shared the following:
"Another broad aim is to increase energy supplies from
diverse
sources; from oil and gas, renewables, coal, hydro and nuclear.
This
is the kind of balanced approach we think is essential if
we're
going to meet the country's energy needs down the road and take
care
of many of our other concerns, especially with respect to
the
environment." -- Vice President Dick Cheney, U.S. Energy
Association
Efficiency Forum Washington, D.C., June 13, 2001"
A really entertaining piece of hypocrisy.How interesting to see
that
you value this Virian sin in your so-called "prophet", Joe. Do
you
have any more examples of this kind of banal sinful behavior
which
you want to offer for the heroic charge it imbues you with?Feel
free
to keep to yourself next time.
[Joe2] Actually, I made no comment upon Cheney's connections
with
Halliburton, but I do note that a veterinarian would not be in a
position of knowledge with respect to power grids, and further
note
that not only dod Cheney predict the problems that the northeast
power
grid recently suffered, but also if the private companies who own
it
had followed his advice and built better safeguards and
redundancy
into the system, the entire travesty might well have been
averted.
[Jake2] Actually you ONLY commented on Cheney as a prophet (re
subj
line)when you shared this. The rest of it was a simple cut and
paste,
as you rarely speak or write for yourself competently much
anymore
these days. And the above excerpt had nothing to do with power
grids.
Keep up with the conversation, Joe. I'm tired talking to the new
memebot-Joe. Cheney didn't exactly invite any environmentalists to
his
secret smoked filled room meetings right before he and his
Enronfriends decided to fuck up the west coast power for his
personal
financial gain. (hypocrisy) But Ken Lay was certainly very welcome.
So
does this man speak for you now, Joe? A prophet . . . I see. You
must
volunteer for minionhood rather easily. I suppose you can join Ken
Lay
and his other disciples, and start a real religious crusade to put
the
whole country (minus Texas) in the dark. There could be some
real
money in that kind of p! iracy. I hear that a lot of former
Arthur
Anderson employees can helpy'all with the accounting. They don't
seem
to be good for any other kind of honest accounting these days and
can
probably use the work, criminal though it may be. Whatever sort
of
expertise Cheney may have in power grids, he obviously hasn't
exercised it to actually create anything worthwhile, except to
show
that he is capable of turning off the power when he really wants
to
leave liberals whowill never vote for him in the dark. Maybe if
Florida doesn't look like it is going their way in the next
election,
they can turn off the power there too, just in casethose aging
Floridianscan't get with new authoritarian program.
Love,
-Jake
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